Via: UK.AC.EARN-RELAY; 13 OCT 89 17:04:56 GMT Received: from UKACRL by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 1604; Fri, 13 Oct 89 17:04:51 BS Received: from CEARN.cern.ch by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer X1.25) with BSMTP id 2210; Fri, 13 Oct 89 17:04:49 B Received: by CEARN (Mailer R2.03B) id 3233; Fri, 13 Oct 89 16:49:08 GVA Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 15:00:07 MDT Reply-To: INFO-ATARI16@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Sender: INFO-ATARI16 Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was INFO-A16@MARIST From: INFO-ATARI16-REQUEST@MIL.ARMY.WSMR-SIMTEL20 Subject: INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 #507 Comments: To: INFO-ATARI16@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-ATARI16 Digest Tue, 10 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 507 Today's Topics: Atari ST Emulator for Amiga Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS Databases Floppy troubles (1040stf) Info-Atari16 Digest V89 #480 official tos 1.4 release PD Word Processors tangle uudecode ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Oct 89 18:15:15 GMT From: watmath!watcgl!wsflinn@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Scott Flinn) Subject: Atari ST Emulator for Amiga In article <55.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us (Bela Lubkin) writes: >In article <1234@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU> pa1329@sdcc13.ucsd.edu writes: >>(From comp.sys.amiga) >>In article <12803@s.ms.uky.edu> phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) writes: >>> It requires a bootable TOS disk to get started - I presume >>>this includes TOSbench, or whatever they call it. (TOS disks can be purchased >>>from local Atari dealers, if you've got one.) >> >>Atari, what is your comment on this? I wonder how can TOS be sold >>on disk to non-Atari owners? > >This is certainly no worse than ST or Amiga owners buying Macintosh ROMs for >Spectre or Amax. What makes the ST specially inviolate? The difference, as I have been lead to believe it, is that Mac owners can buy Mac ROMs from Apple dealers. ST owners cannot buy disk based TOS from ANYWHERE. Am I wrong? Where CAN I buy it? Cheers, Scott -- Me: Scott Flinn / "If it doesn't fit, force it. Domain: wsflinn@watcgl.waterloo.edu / If it breaks, then it didn't UUCP: watmath!watcgl!wsflinn / fit anyway." ------------------------------ Date: 10 Oct 89 13:14:49 GMT From: att!dptg!lzaz!hcj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (HC Johnson) Subject: Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS In article <126044@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, kron%aiki@Sun.COM (Kenneth Kron) writes: > From article <1989Oct8.202742.10601@cs.dal.ca>, by silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert): > > Lars-Erik Osterud recently pointed out that you can use > > Avant-Garde's PC_DDRVR.SYS to read normal ST disks on a PC. > > How do you get pc_ddrvr.sys, is this sold as PC software or what ? pc_ddrvr.sys is a TSR program supplied with PC-Ditto to allow ATARI partitions D,E,F etc to be accessed from MS/DOS running under the emulater. It has no other magical properties. Howard C. Johnson ATT Bell Labs att!lzaz!hcj hcj@lzaz.att.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 Oct 89 19:04:06 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!mrsvr.UUCP!jupiter.uucp!krieg@tut.cis. ohio-state.edu (Andrew Krieg) Subject: Databases Are there any database packages for the ST that allow you to access the database through C programs (like Btrieve, etc. for the PC's)? I would like to use an SQL database if possible. The only SQL db for the ST that I have heard of is RegentBase. Does it provide these C 'hooks' that I need? Or is this a lost cause for ST development? ========================================================================= = = = The Atari Addict A. Krieg = = = = G.E. Medical Systems - CT - New Berlin, WI = = USENET: krieg@jupiter.med.ge.com = = = ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: 10 Oct 89 16:56:51 GMT From: att!cbnewsm!wao@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (william.a.oswald) Subject: Floppy troubles (1040stf) I am having several problems with my (DS internal) floppy drive. It seems that if I don't access the drive for several minutes it stops working. For example, if I double click on a folder the file listing becomes corrupt (the disk does not spin). If I pop the disk out and replace it, it works fine (unless I don't access it for awhile). I ran VKILLER 2.2 on my boot disk, no virus. By the way I have a z-time clock chip installed under one of the roms (ver. 1.2) with software in the auto folder to drive it. Also, when I pop a disk out of the floppy drive the button pops out as if there is a disk still in it. In order to put in another disk I have to hold the eject button in until the disk is inserted. How can I fix this! Thank in advance Bill Oswald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Oct 89 14:07 EDT From: FRACHEL@umiami.Miami.EDU Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V89 #480 Hi all, I used to have a 520 st system for about 4 years, then sold the whole system in order to have money for college. Now i am in college, and I need a computer. I would like input as to what you all think I should do. If the MAC and IBM emulators are good enough I will get a Mega 2 or 4, but i have been out of it for a few years and dont know how these programs are. Any and all information will be appreciated. Frank Rachel FRACHEL@UMIAMI ------------------------------ Date: 9 Oct 89 16:40:44 GMT From: att!chinet!mcdchg!mcdphx!hrc!force!covertr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Richard E. Covert) Subject: official tos 1.4 release In article <2074@hudson.acc.virginia.edu>, gl8f@astsun8.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes: > In article <460c4f58.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes: > > > Well, my feeling is that Atari has really dropped the ball on the release of > > TOS 1.4!! > > Lots of feeling, no understanding. I tried to send this email, but > uunet doesn't know where "force.UUCP" is. Well, I can be reached at .../gtephx!covertr. FORCE is a node on our Apollo network. Just try gtephx!covertr. > > You suggest that Atari go ahead and produce updated TOS 1.4 ROMS. This is > probably a bad idea. Can't you just see customer service: "I have this > problem", "What version of TOS are you running?", "TOS 1.4, I just bought > it from my dealer", "Which one, new TOS 1.4 or old TOS 1.4???" Greg, the problem is one of timing. By the time Atari got the TOS 1.4 PROMs out, and notice that they are PROMS not ROMs, bugs had already been identified and repaired by hackers. Since, the offical TOS ROMs still haven't been released, it is not unreasonable to hope that Atari would fix the known bugs before releasing them. I just hate to see TOS 1.4 start off with a bunch of auto folder patches!! And there is still no legal way to buy TOS 1.4 in 100 ns EPROMs so that the Turbo16 can run at full speed. T16 can be setup to access the TOS memory without wait states if the memory is quick enough. Hence the need for 100 ns EPROMs. If Atari was selling TOS in ROMs it might be possible to buy them in 100ns roms. who knows?? > > Or, a user sees TOS14PATCH.ARC on his BBS, and wonders if he's > supposed to run it or not. It's vastly easier to have all TOS ROMS > distributed for a long time be the same, and for all users to need the > same patch program. This is the only philosophy that makes sense for a > home machine. Atari isn't Sun. Greg, the user already needs an auto folder patch for the TOS 1.4 that is being sold by Atari. How many more patches will be needed over the next six months?? > > On another topic, Richard flamed Atari for not providing more software > support to people trying to get the SLM804 working with Mac software. > it's silly to expect David Small to do it if it would take so much > time it wouldn't be cost-effective. > > Can I get down off my soapbox yet? ;-) > > > ------ > Greg Lindahl > gl8f@virginia.edu I'm not the NRA. And finally, Greg, I have stopped asking Dave Small for a 300 dpi QuickDraw driver for the SLM804. As you have just said it appears to be too hard for Dave Small, or anyone else, to develop. So, whose fault is it?? Atari?? Apple?? GBS?? All I know is that when I bought my Spectre 128 from Dave Small in Sept 1988, Dave said that he would provide a 300 dpi driver for the SLM804 laser printer. And now over a year later it has proven to be an impossible task. The best that Dave can do is 144 dpi, which is basically just draft printing on a 300 dpi laser printer. so, while I am not satisified with the Spectre printer driver for the SLM804, at least I know that Dave gave it his best shot!! So, I am NOT flaming GBS. I am just waiting for GBS to release the Spectre version 2.0 software so that I can use my SLM804 laser printer in 144 dpi mode. Richard (gtephx!covertr) Covert ------------------------------ Date: 10 Oct 89 20:19:17 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!sdsu!ucselx!coffey@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (pat coffey) Subject: PD Word Processors In article <1989Oct10.125136.19140@cs.dal.ca> bill@biomel.UUCP writes: >In article <3968@blake.acs.washington.edu> themod@blake.acs.washington.edu (Chris Hinton) writes: >> >> Hello you netters, I need some help. I need a good PD Word Processor. I >>have (gak!) 1st Word, but I hate it with a passion. I also think spending >>$100+ for any program is just plain stupid. Any suggestions? > >Why stupid? Good software takes time to write, and a decent commercial >product can easily be worth more than $100. I've had my Atari since almost day one (before 1st word was invented) and have used STwriter. It has been improved a lot, but is still part of the public domain. It is not a wysiwyg, but has a lot of features such as 2 column printing and mail merge. I still use it a lot. -- _ _ Ms. Pat Coffey |_) (_ San Diego State University | coffey@ucselx.sdsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 10 Oct 89 18:04:34 GMT From: pwp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Purdom) Subject: tangle Has anyone ported tangle to the Atari ST? Tangle is the program that converts Don Knuth's language Web to Pascal. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Oct 89 19:53:59 GMT From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uwm.edu!mrsvr.UUCP!jupiter.uucp! krieg@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Krieg) Subject: uudecode What does it mean when uudecode gives the message "short file"? Obviously it is an error of some sort, because the files extracted are cut off. I also sometimes get an error simply stated "Error 0". This occurs after a previous part has failed. Does uudecode add to a previous file sometimes? If I try to get the binary again, will it still fail, or is the error perhaps generated in the mail transfer? Any info is appreciated. ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 Issue #507 *****************************************